Comments on: Obama A History of Socialist Policies/Beliefs

By: billige autoversicherung

billige autoversicherung — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:48:47 +0000

last few days our class held a similar discussion about this topic and you show something we haven’t covered yet, thanks.

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By: Tool Tracking

Tool Tracking — Sat, 02 Oct 2010 09:51:23 +0000

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By: kmorrison33

kmorrison33 — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:00:04 +0000

Think you have some very good points Lancer. At the time of posting this piece, my frustration was that then-Senator Obama was not being questioned about his prior statements that could be described as ‘pro-socialist.’ I agree with your point that through that in a Democracy if people want a more socialist system that they have every right to vote for it. Also, agree with your prior point that the term ‘socialist’ is being misconstrued in many cases. Canada and Europe have socialist systems that I personally wouldn’t want to see in the U.S., but are far from being ‘bad.’

I do think the economies of countries pay a pretty steep price for socialist policies, but certainly respect the desire to create a ‘fairer’ system – even though I question whether that desire is actually achieved.

By: Lancer

Lancer — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:20:56 +0000

I hardly find the debate of socialism vs. capitalism to be anything that can be proven right or wrong completely. This is a debate of opinions, and it’s important to respect that another’s opinions may be different from your own-this is the fundamental idea of independence after all.

By: Lancer

Lancer — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:12:46 +0000

Socialism calls for government and employee ownership of large corporations/industries. It also overlaps with the goals of progressives in many fields. Socialism can come in many many different forms, just as a democracy can. Also, seeing as how this is government ownership, and we’re the ones that elect government officials to power, it would logically follow that a system in which our government owned large businesses would, in fact, be giving the people ownership of the businesses indirectly.

What you have been describing is Socialism in the hands of a dictatorship, wherein one person controls the government, and therefore since the government owns the businesses, he owns the businesses as well.

Socialism is not a form of government as much as a form of economy. We live in a capitalist economy, which is often thought of, correctly or incorrectly, as an economic democracy. However, logically, capitalism has more resemblance to anarchy: a lack of control, fluctuations of power (money), and upon the upper classes oppressing the lower classes, revolution (strikes) begins to break out.

The primary driving idea of socialism is the belief that there should be a large shift in wealth down from the upper class. Though this at first seems unreasonable, it’s important to consider that the top 1% of the wealthiest Americans have more money than the bottom 90%.

If we, as a whole, decided we wanted to have a communist or socialist economy, then by electing representatives/senators/presidents, etc. who would vote for an amendment to the constitution to make it as such, it could be done without changing how the government itself is run at all. Communism is the equal dividing of all wealth among all of the people. Personally, I believe that such a thing is not fair, as there are many people who do honestly deserve more or less wealth. Socialism is virtually the same as capitalism, however there are no business owners. Instead, the employees run the business together with the government.

By: Lancer

Lancer — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:50:03 +0000

Actually Roshea, that’s called communism, Russian communism to be exact. There’s a difference between socialism and communism you know.

By: Carmine Corrice

Carmine Corrice — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:01:08 +0000

Thanks to your post I dont seem like an idiot. I had a disagreement with my friend and this proves I was right. Thanks!

By: Roshea R.

Roshea R. — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:10:46 +0000

UR statements are of a person who is individualistic, from a free country. Socialism is not. U will be told what job u will have. U work for the party. All your private property is the states. Russians, Chinese, Romanians understand these measures as a means of controlling masses. Ur car is confiscated, ur children r re-educated to party rules and state propaganda. Children r used as informants, on parents, neighbors, etc. Neighbors become paranoid, do not talk to each other for fear of being reported. Socialism does not mix with Republic. Marx/Engels wrote of Socialism, added Darwinism. No state religion is recognized. Expect conformity to state party propaganda. No objections are allowed. Czars today are controllers soft neutral speech is ‘regulators’ to hide true intent from Americans. They will control newspapers, TV, internet, economy, schools, all businesses, healthcare, all gov control and owned by President, who will change laws and constitution so he can rule for a long time. Henry Reid made mention of this recently, he is a socialist. most house and senate is Socialists called neutral speech, “Leftist”. Also ur speech can place u in jail, or labor camp to speak against the party at any time or reported to party member. Socialism is all abt control why? Because as Darwinism reads, “man is an animal and as such must learn submission to the will of the master and made to obey.”

By: Roshea R.

Roshea R. — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:00:53 +0000

USA is a republic as our founding fathers who wrote the constitution wrote. But democracy and republics can overlap. In Democracy the people rule either thru town meetings or by representatives to make laws, etc. Americans want to rule themselves, to further their own interests, own private property, right to vote. on and on. Socialism/Communism, you do not own private property, you work for the state party. The elite are the politicians, they live in luxury you live in poverty. Ex;Russia, China. You obey and conform, or to labor camps, torture, shot in head. Famine of the masses decreased the population, Human value d/t Darwinism meant u total=0. God was deleted. No practice of religion the party is ur religion ie; darwinism, no choice. Children were the 1st to be indoctrinated thru schools like today in America. Used to be informants against parents, anyone. Sound familiar?

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